Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?Why Boeing 737 main landing gear wells have no doors?Why are there vortex generators under the Boeing 737's cockpit windows?Why are 737 fuselages built in Kansas?Why are there some airports not charted as service-available when FBO provides fuel?Why did this 737 not take off on first attempt?Where are the grounded 737 Max planes being kept?Why is Boeing being blamed for the recent 737 Max crashes?Why is Germany not able to read data from the Boeing 737 MAX black boxes?Why are there only two 'angle of attack sensors' in the 737 Max series?Is there less vertical space for an engine under the wing of a 737 Max than for an A320neo?
I need to drive a 7/16" nut but am unsure how to use the socket I bought for my screwdriver
Theorems like the Lovász Local Lemma?
Schematic conventions for different supply rails
What does it mean to make a bootable LiveUSB?
Can anyone tell me why this program fails?
How to make healing in an exploration game interesting
Russian cases: A few examples, I'm really confused
Do I need life insurance if I can cover my own funeral costs?
Is Mortgage interest accrued after a December payment tax deductible?
Co-worker team leader wants to inject his friend's awful software into our development. What should I say to our common boss?
Does splitting a potentially monolithic application into several smaller ones help prevent bugs?
How do I hide Chekhov's Gun?
Why is "das Weib" grammatically neuter?
What's the significance of this pattern?
How to explain that I do not want to visit a country due to personal safety concern?
RegionDifference for Cylinder and Cuboid
Simulating rnorm() using runif()
What has been your most complicated TikZ drawing?
What is the greatest age difference between a married couple in Tanach?
Is having access to past exams cheating and, if yes, could it be proven just by a good grade?
Make a transparent 448*448 image
What is a good source for large tables on the properties of water?
Rejected in 4th interview round citing insufficient years of experience
Bash: What does "masking return values" mean?
Why are there 40 737 Max planes in flight when they have been grounded as not airworthy?
Why Boeing 737 main landing gear wells have no doors?Why are there vortex generators under the Boeing 737's cockpit windows?Why are 737 fuselages built in Kansas?Why are there some airports not charted as service-available when FBO provides fuel?Why did this 737 not take off on first attempt?Where are the grounded 737 Max planes being kept?Why is Boeing being blamed for the recent 737 Max crashes?Why is Germany not able to read data from the Boeing 737 MAX black boxes?Why are there only two 'angle of attack sensors' in the 737 Max series?Is there less vertical space for an engine under the wing of a 737 Max than for an A320neo?
$begingroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$endgroup$
Many countries have already grounded 737 Max planes and as of today the FAA have stated:
The aircraft will not fly until a software update can be tested and installed, the US regulator said.
So why are there currently 40 737 Max planes in flight according to FlightAware?
Who would be liable should one of these flights crash on takeoff, potentially over a densely populated urban environment?
faa-regulations boeing-737
faa-regulations boeing-737
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
asked 1 hour ago
DavidPostillDavidPostill
1214
1214
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
New contributor
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
DavidPostill is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago
|
show 1 more comment
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "528"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
DavidPostill is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61175%2fwhy-are-there-40-737-max-planes-in-flight-when-they-have-been-grounded-as-not-ai%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
$endgroup$
Most of them are probably on a ferry flight. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers.
Some of them are travelling between countries where they are not grounded.
When a commercial plane crashes, the airline is liable, unless it can prove that the manufacturer is at fault.
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
answered 1 hour ago
boglbogl
3,9251733
3,9251733
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
One of them (from Agadir) is flying into Manchester Airport. They are grounded in European airspace.
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
2
2
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
They are grounded for passenger flights. The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 legs without passengers.
$endgroup$
– bogl
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
"The EASA directive allows 1 transfer with up to 3 flight legs without passengers" - to get the plane to a location where any corrective action can be taken. There is (yet) no corrective action, and when there is it will be a software upgrade which can be done just about anywhere...
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
1 hour ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
$begingroup$
@DavidPostill no. you want to do any change to your aircraft at your maintenance facilities, where your technicians are, and they are not "just about anywhere"
$endgroup$
– Federico♦
59 mins ago
add a comment |
DavidPostill is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
DavidPostill is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
DavidPostill is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
DavidPostill is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
Thanks for contributing an answer to Aviation Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61175%2fwhy-are-there-40-737-max-planes-in-flight-when-they-have-been-grounded-as-not-ai%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
The flightaware data is wrong.
$endgroup$
– Ben
38 mins ago
1
$begingroup$
@Ben Really? What is wrong with it?
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
37 mins ago
$begingroup$
@Ben uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/TOM733 shows Aircraft information Aircraft Type Boeing 737 MAX 8 (twin-jet)
$endgroup$
– DavidPostill
36 mins ago
$begingroup$
I don't know enough about how it gets the data but flightradar 24 gets data directly from the aircraft ADSB transmitter and it shows none of them flying at the moment. I corroborated this when flightaware displayed a Max in Australian airspace yesterday when the aircraft has been subbed to a normal 737-800.
$endgroup$
– Ben
33 mins ago
$begingroup$
TOM733 is currently operated by G-FDZY which is not a Max
$endgroup$
– Ben
31 mins ago