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Confusion on Parallelogram
Visualizing the Area of a ParallelogramHow do I find the surface area of an angled conic base?Visualizing the Area of a ParallelogramArea of stripe around cylinderArea of Square $neq$ the area of Rhombus created by stretched square?How can the area of a parallelogram be show to be equal to the determinant?Finding the Longer Diagonal of a ParallelogramGRE: Can area of this parallelogram be known?Area of a regular hexagon via area of trianglesFinding the Relation of the Areas in Two Similar Right TrianglesDid Euclid prove the formula for the area of a triangle?
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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :
$ Base times Height $
and not this one :
$ Base times Side $
I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?
PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers
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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :
$ Base times Height $
and not this one :
$ Base times Side $
I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?
PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers
geometry
edited 43 mins ago
dantopa
6,63342245
asked 6 hours ago
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Possible duplicate of Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram
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– kkc
6 hours ago
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@kkc, did you see the link ?
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5 hours ago
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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :
$ Base times Height $
and not this one :
$ Base times Side $
I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?
PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers
geometry
edited 43 mins ago
dantopa
6,63342245
asked 6 hours ago
Bo HalimBo Halim
1094
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Bo Halim is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
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i know it's rude and pretentious and maybe stupid to ask such question but, i would like to know the reason why in geometry the area of a parallelogram follows this formula :
$ Base times Height $
and not this one :
$ Base times Side $
I saw this method which consists of transforming our figure into a rectangle by moving the black one to the right, and that seems logical to me, but why not adopt the second rule, all the horizontal points multiplied by the vertical ones ?
PS : I found the same Visualizing the Area of a Parallelogram, but was unconvinced by the answers
geometry
geometry
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asked 6 hours ago
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edited 43 mins ago
dantopa
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dantopa
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asked 6 hours ago
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– kkc
6 hours ago
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@kkc, did you see the link ?
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6 hours ago
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@kkc, did you see the link ?
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– kkc
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@kkc, did you see the link ?
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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:
Very long base and very long side and very small area.
Or...
...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:
answered 5 hours ago
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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.
answered 6 hours ago
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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.
To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.
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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:
Very long base and very long side and very small area.
Or...
...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:
answered 5 hours ago
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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:
Very long base and very long side and very small area.
Or...
...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:
answered 5 hours ago
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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:
Very long base and very long side and very small area.
Or...
...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:
answered 5 hours ago
David G. StorkDavid G. Stork
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Sometimes a figure is worth 1000 words:
Very long base and very long side and very small area.
Or...
...each of these parallelograms has the same base and side, but manifestly different areas:
answered 5 hours ago
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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.
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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.
answered 6 hours ago
Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker
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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.
answered 6 hours ago
Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker
45.3k553120
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You can't "adopt the second rule" because it gives the wrong answer. The parallelogram in your picture has all four sides of length $5$, There are lots of parallelograms like that, depending on the angle between adjacent sides. The largest is a square. If you make the acute angle smaller and smaller you find parallelograms that are nearly on a line, with tiny areas. But your formula would say they all have area $25$.
answered 6 hours ago
Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker
45.3k553120
answered 6 hours ago
Ethan BolkerEthan Bolker
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answered 6 hours ago
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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.
To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.
answered 5 hours ago
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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.
To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.
answered 5 hours ago
Cameron BuieCameron Buie
86.2k772161
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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.
To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.
answered 5 hours ago
Cameron BuieCameron Buie
86.2k772161
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As you point out, the first method is logical, as it uses a formula we already know to be true (the familiar area formula for a rectangle), and then transforms our figure without changing the area, so that we can apply the rule.
To see why we can't simply multiply $5$ and $5$ to get the answer, draw the $5times 5$ square. Your parallelogram can't fill it by cut and paste. Alternatively, you can draw $25$ unit squares, and try to cut and paste them into the parallelogram. You'll only be able to make $20$ of them fit.
answered 5 hours ago
Cameron BuieCameron Buie
86.2k772161
answered 5 hours ago
Cameron BuieCameron Buie
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answered 5 hours ago
Cameron BuieCameron Buie
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