Did the DC-9 ever use RATO in revenue service?Does the MD-80 seat layout affect the balance of the aircraft?What is this hole on the tail of an MD-88?MD81: Why are there so many lights on the fuselage?What is the procedure for a rejected Jet/Rocket Assisted Takeoff (J/RATO)?What is the big hole at the bottom of the vertical stabilizer on the Boeing 717?Have there ever been any JATO bottles using only kerosene?What is the DC-9 wing's angle of incidence (AoI)?Where can I find information on the DC-9's turn radius in flight?Why does the DC-9-80 have this cusp in its fuselage?

Trouble understanding the speech of overseas colleagues

How to run a prison with the smallest amount of guards?

Anatomically Correct Strange Women In Ponds Distributing Swords

Failed to fetch jessie backports repository

Short story about space worker geeks who zone out by 'listening' to radiation from stars

Why are there no referendums in the US?

Are student evaluations of teaching assistants read by others in the faculty?

Fine Tuning of the Universe

What can we do to stop prior company from asking us questions?

Term for the "extreme-extension" version of a straw man fallacy?

How do I go from 300 unfinished/half written blog posts, to published posts?

Gears on left are inverse to gears on right?

Would this custom Sorcerer variant that can only learn any verbal-component-only spell be unbalanced?

Do the temporary hit points from the Battlerager barbarian's Reckless Abandon stack if I make multiple attacks on my turn?

What does the word "Atten" mean?

I'm in charge of equipment buying but no one's ever happy with what I choose. How to fix this?

How can I get through very long and very dry, but also very useful technical documents when learning a new tool?

Method to test if a number is a perfect power?

Proof of work - lottery approach

Pre-amplifier input protection

How can we prove that any integral in the set of non-elementary integrals cannot be expressed in the form of elementary functions?

For a non-Jew, is there a punishment for not observing the 7 Noahide Laws?

How to be diplomatic in refusing to write code that breaches the privacy of our users

Opposite of a diet



Did the DC-9 ever use RATO in revenue service?


Does the MD-80 seat layout affect the balance of the aircraft?What is this hole on the tail of an MD-88?MD81: Why are there so many lights on the fuselage?What is the procedure for a rejected Jet/Rocket Assisted Takeoff (J/RATO)?What is the big hole at the bottom of the vertical stabilizer on the Boeing 717?Have there ever been any JATO bottles using only kerosene?What is the DC-9 wing's angle of incidence (AoI)?Where can I find information on the DC-9's turn radius in flight?Why does the DC-9-80 have this cusp in its fuselage?













4












$begingroup$


While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:




... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]




Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?



EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".










share|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Sean
    3 hours ago















4












$begingroup$


While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:




... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]




Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?



EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".










share|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Sean
    3 hours ago













4












4








4





$begingroup$


While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:




... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]




Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?



EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




While reading the NTSB report on the crash of ALM Flight 980, I came across this interesting tidbit:




... The fuel charts used for the study made allowance for a higher consumption rate than the standard DC-9-30 series aircraft. This was the result of a fuel audit by the Douglas Aircraft Company on ONA aircraft and was due to jet assisted takeoff fairings installed on those aircraft. [Pages 7-8 of the paper report; pages 12-13 of the PDF file of the report. ONA = Overseas National Airways, who operated the flight on behalf of ALM. Emphasis added.]




Did these DC-9s ever actually use RATO during revenue operations?



EDIT: "Revenue operations" here means "any flight conducted for monetary compensation".







dc-9-family rato






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 3 hours ago







Sean

















asked 4 hours ago









SeanSean

5,47232667




5,47232667







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Sean
    3 hours ago












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
    $endgroup$
    – Ron Beyer
    4 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Sean
    3 hours ago







1




1




$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
When you say "revenue flight" do you mean a passenger operation, or any flight for money? They were never used for passenger flights, but they were used by Overseas National in high/hot fields for military contracts in cargo operations.
$endgroup$
– Ron Beyer
4 hours ago












$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
@RonBeyer: Any flight for money, editing question accordingly, would you like to make that an answer?
$endgroup$
– Sean
3 hours ago










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















4












$begingroup$

The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.



I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.



Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:



enter image description here
Source: UT Dallas



It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:



enter image description here
Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)



The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$












    Your Answer





    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    );
    );
    , "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function()
    var channelOptions =
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "528"
    ;
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
    createEditor();
    );

    else
    createEditor();

    );

    function createEditor()
    StackExchange.prepareEditor(
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: false,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: null,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader:
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    ,
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    );



    );













    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function ()
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61689%2fdid-the-dc-9-ever-use-rato-in-revenue-service%23new-answer', 'question_page');

    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes








    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    4












    $begingroup$

    The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.



    I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.



    Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:



    enter image description here
    Source: UT Dallas



    It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:



    enter image description here
    Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)



    The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).






    share|improve this answer











    $endgroup$

















      4












      $begingroup$

      The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.



      I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.



      Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:



      enter image description here
      Source: UT Dallas



      It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:



      enter image description here
      Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)



      The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).






      share|improve this answer











      $endgroup$















        4












        4








        4





        $begingroup$

        The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.



        I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.



        Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:



        enter image description here
        Source: UT Dallas



        It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:



        enter image description here
        Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)



        The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).






        share|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        The JATO/RATO retrofits were used only by Overseas National (later National Airways) when operating out of hot/high airfields for military contracts. They were never used as passenger flights, but you could say that these were "revenue" flights as they were done for monetary compensation.



        I can't find any history on ALM980, only that it was registered as N935F and operated by Overseas National as a passenger flight. N935F does not show any history in the FAA registry other than it being reserved. It is possible that this was a converted cargo aircraft.



        Here is a picture of an Overseas National flight using the JATO rockets:



        enter image description here
        Source: UT Dallas



        It should be noted that the DC9 was not the only passenger type aircraft to get the "JATO" treatment. Boeing modified the 727 to operate out of short fields by adding JATO rockets. Aviation Week did an article featuring the DC-9 JATO modifications:



        enter image description here
        Source: Aviation Week (article paywall)



        The magazine cover linked above shows a DC-9 take-off (an Overseas National flight).







        share|improve this answer














        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer








        edited 1 hour ago

























        answered 1 hour ago









        Ron BeyerRon Beyer

        22k281102




        22k281102



























            draft saved

            draft discarded
















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Aviation Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid


            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

            Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function ()
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2faviation.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f61689%2fdid-the-dc-9-ever-use-rato-in-revenue-service%23new-answer', 'question_page');

            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            कुँवर स्रोत दिक्चालन सूची"कुँवर""राणा कुँवरके वंशावली"

            Why is a white electrical wire connected to 2 black wires?How to wire a light fixture with 3 white wires in box?How should I wire a ceiling fan when there's only three wires in the box?Two white, two black, two ground, and red wire in ceiling box connected to switchWhy is there a white wire connected to multiple black wires in my light box?How to wire a light with two white wires and one black wireReplace light switch connected to a power outlet with dimmer - two black wires to one black and redHow to wire a light with multiple black/white/green wires from the ceiling?Ceiling box has 2 black and white wires but fan/ light only has 1 of eachWhy neutral wire connected to load wire?Switch with 2 black, 2 white, 2 ground and 1 red wire connected to ceiling light and a receptacle?

            चैत्य भूमि चित्र दीर्घा सन्दर्भ बाहरी कडियाँ दिक्चालन सूची"Chaitya Bhoomi""Chaitya Bhoomi: Statue of Equality in India""Dadar Chaitya Bhoomi: Statue of Equality in India""Ambedkar memorial: Centre okays transfer of Indu Mill land"चैत्यभमि